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Creation Astronomy Propaganda Debunked 03
I apologise for the delay with putting this video out. Thanks for your patience everyone. This is the first of what I expect to be several videos looking at a lecture by Spike Psarris. Latest news and up-to-date info from NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft can be found here: http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/ Please also check out these fine YouTube channels: http://www.youtube.com/Thunderf00t http://www.youtube.com/DonExodus2 http://www.youtube.com/AronRa http://www.youtube.com/Potholer54 http://www.youtube.com/CDK007 Various material in this video was produced by NASA/ESA/Harvard/Cornell/JHUAPL All multimedia displayed is done so with fair use intended, for entirely non-profit, educational purposes. If you are the rightful owner of any material within the video and would like me to remove it, please contact me via my YouTube channel. Music used in this video: Smack My Bitch Up - Prodigy Drop The Pressure - Mylo
Author:AndromedasWake
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Komentarze
| « if you dont mind can I send you a friend request to keep in touch in case I have any more questions? » Hey, I'm just getting my trivia from wikipedia too, you know ;) But go ahead... | XGralgrathor |
| Thank you so much for you taking the time to explain, if you dont mind can I send you a friend request to keep in touch in case I have any more questions? | CPTalk |
| « And this is what causes the sun to have mass and gravity, correct? » Most matter has mass. Mass is a property of matter. And everything that has mass produces a gravitational field. | XGralgrathor |
| I meant to say the sun I have been up all night researching this stuff lol. "Some carbon, silicon, iron. Anything up to iron may be present, in fact. And small bits of heavier stuff too, but that's mostly from ancient supernovae." And this is what causes the sun to have mass and gravity, correct? | CPTalk |
| « but is this what [evolutionists] mean when conditions for life were just right? » Well, to say that they're "just right" is implying that it couldn't have happened if things were even the tiniest bit different. But we don't know that it wouldn't have happened if things had been different. We don't know of other life-bearing planets to which we can compare ours - yet. | XGralgrathor |
| I meant evolutionists sorryfor the mix up. Are you an instructor? | CPTalk |
| « So the sound does have mass? » Sound? No, sound is a wave propagating through a gaseous medium. « What other elements is the sun composed of because I thought that it was just H and He? » Some carbon, silicon, iron. Anything up to iron may be present, in fact. And small bits of heavier stuff too, but that's mostly from ancient supernovae. | XGralgrathor |
| « Heavier elements like what we see here on earth? » Yep. Heavier elements like silicon, carbon, iron. « but is this what physicists mean when conditions for life were just right? » Uh... I don't know any physicist stating that conditions were just right. They may, though. | XGralgrathor |
| So the sound does have mass? What other elements is the sun composed of because I thought that it was just H and He? Is there heavier elements involved? Im so sorry Im bugging you but I just have to know! | CPTalk |
| « BTW is that energy released that you are talking about photons and solar radiation? » The sun is basically a huge engine for converting gravitational energy into photons. Mass generates a gravitational field, the gravitational field collapses mass in on itself, forcing some of it to fuse, the fusion produces energy which radiates away. | XGralgrathor |
| Heavier elements like what we see here on earth? Jesus H. Christ (no pun intended) but is this what physicists mean when conditions for life were just right? | CPTalk |
| « this doesnt explain the huge gravitional attraction the nine planets in our solar system have to our sun » I think you mean the other way around. The sun is a huge mass. Hence it has a strong gravitational field. « I also still confused on how planets form from essentially the same elements. How are they bound together? » They're bound together by gravity. « How does gravity work » We know what it does, but as to what it is exactly, we're not sure yet. | XGralgrathor |
| BTW is that energy released that you are talking about photons and solar radiation? | CPTalk |
| That is really good info and I am most likely missing what your saying but to me, this doesnt explain the huge gravitional attraction the nine planets in our solar system have to our sun. I also still confused on how planets form from essentially the same elements. How are they bound together? How does gravity work and what exactly drives this force to accumulate elements to build objects? I am just so lost, what am I not getting? | CPTalk |
| « Oh, XG, what I was trying to say is that many creationists attempt to lump all forms of "Evolution" together and then try deperately to debunk one in the hopes it will discredit all. » Ah - I think I must have gotten confused by all the quotation marks. Got up late this morning. | XGralgrathor |
| Oh, XG, what I was trying to say is that many creationists attempt to lump all forms of "Evolution" together and then try deperately to debunk one in the hopes it will discredit all. They act as if the word "evolution" is a field of inquiry or a scientific theory unto itself, when it's just a verb. | RyuDarragh |
| No, CPTalk. The sun does not make mass. It converts some mass into energy (which is liberated mass) and that radiates away. It converts Hydrogen *into* Helium and some of the leftover is energy. 4 H atoms become 1 He atom, but then there are 2 electrons left over. Helium fuses to form Carbon, Oxygen and so on. All the way to Iron. Past Iron, a supernova can make the heavier elements by wasting a *lot* of energy fusing other elements together. In all of these, mass is lost as energy. | RyuDarragh |
| « What Im not getting is where did the hydrogen and helium come from and how did it form? » Look here: en(.)wikipedia(.)org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Big_Bang#The_photon_epoch « Was it just a dense area where these elements gathered » Protoplanetary disks would form around irregularities in the interstellar medium. As soon as there is a concentration of mass somewhere, it will automatically attract more mass. | XGralgrathor |
| « Im sorry I'm lost. There is not gravity in space correct? » Not really. One could say that gravity is everywhere. General relativty holds that gravity is the curvature of spacetime, which bends around mass. The force that gravity excerts may be quite small at some places though. « Well you have planetary objects which are composed mostly of hydrogen and helieum right? » Some of them. Others are composed mostly of heavier elements. | XGralgrathor |
| Im sorry I'm lost. There is not gravity in space correct? Well you have planetary objects which are composed mostly of hydrogen and helieum right? What Im not getting is where did the hydrogen and helium come from and how did it form? Was it just a dense area where these elements gathered that attracted fusion of H and He and other objects to form planets? I'm just so lost and I am so sorry. | CPTalk |
| « I am assuming your saying it is composed mostly of helium and hydrogen due to the active core deep inside the earth? » Huh? No, because all visible matter in the entire universe is mostly hydrogen and helium, with a smattering of heavier elements. The sun too. « Does the fusion of Hydrogen and Helium bend space to produce mass? » ... Hydrogen and helium are mass. Most matter has mass. | XGralgrathor |
| « It is absolutely, categoricaly and definitively IMPOSSIBLE to disprove "evolution". The word on its own only means "change from one ctate to another" and things do, indeed change. However, you *can* disprove "cosmic evolution", or "evolution of species" and so on. Just the word "evolution" by itself can't be disproved any more than the word "walk" can be. So, question, how does disproving "planetary evolution" disprove "species evolution" ? » What the hell are you talking about, dude? | XGralgrathor |
| I understand now as I am beginning to realize the answer to my own question-along with your knowledge as well. I am assuming your saying it is composed mostly of helium and hydrogen due to the active core deep inside the earth? Im also assuming that the mass attracts, or rather attracted other elements as well to form a planet. This brings me to my next question which is; Does the fusion of Hydrogen and Helium bend space to produce mass? | CPTalk |
| It is absolutely, categoricaly and definitively IMPOSSIBLE to disprove "evolution". The word on its own only means "change from one ctate to another" and things do, indeed change. However, you *can* disprove "cosmic evolution", or "evolution of species" and so on. Just the word "evolution" by itself can't be disproved any more than the word "walk" can be. So, question, how does disproving "planetary evolution" disprove "species evolution" ? | RyuDarragh |
| « When you speak of planetary disks what exactly is their composition? » Mostly hydrogen and helium, of course. But some heavier elements as well. I think the spectral lines of the sun would give us a good idea of the overall composition. « How do they have or attain gravity to form planets? » They're mass. Mass bends space. Presumably, planets form from irregularities in the disk, as it revolves around and collapses inwards towards its center. | XGralgrathor |